A./ before Creation ( as we know it ); consider -
Proverbs 8:26;
While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
1./ This is a date stamped verse which tells us of a date and time when & where the earth ( as we know it ) had not yet, there and then, been created.
2./ This is a date stamped verse which gives us a date and time when & where the earth ( as we know it ) had not yet, there and then, been created.
3./ Thus, Proverbs 8:26; establishes and proves this date and time.
B./ through to Creation ( as we know it ); - Jesus was there when God made the Earth to begin with. Proverbs 8:23 - 31;
Ephesians 3:9;
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
C./ through to Michael making war in heaven and casting Lucifer and his angels out of heaven: Jesus beheld it all !
D./ These are all PRIMORDIAL things which took place in ETERNITY PAST: all prior to and before time ( as we know it ).
1./ Sin originated herein, during this PRIMORIDAL TIME of ETERNITY PAST: and,
2./ is among the several PRIMORDIAL POWERS/FORCES/PRINCIPALITIES that existed therein.
3./ Making sin quit among SUPERNATURAL THINGS; and, quit among things well beyond the prowess of mortal beings which were created after such things.
2nd./ Is there an/any human answer ?
I had a Jehovah's witness ask me this question once ( in 2011 ) to which I replied " no: there is no human answer. "
i.e. Is there an/any human answer ? to the problems which face the plight of humanity - there may be some kind of an answer to address some part thereof - but you can be certain that it will not be THE ANSWER; and, you can be so certain with every certainty of being correct in such an assumption/conclusion !
i.e. Is there an/any human answer ? to the human constitution and conditions of sin - there may be some kind of an answer to address some part thereof ( e.g. rule of law ) - but you can be certain that it will not be THE ANSWER; and, you can be so certain with every certainty of being correct in such an assumption/conclusion !
A./ Had mankind / human beings / mortal men been able to provide THE ANSWER / SOLUTION to such things as these, it seems fairly certain to me " they'd have done so by now " some 6000 years into the whole mess !
B./ Had mankind / human beings / mortal men been able to provide THE ANSWER / SOLUTION to the human constitution and conditions of sin, it seems fairly certain to me " they'd have done so by now " some 6000 years into the whole mess !
C./ So that, " no: there is no human answer to such things as these which lay well outside the realm and domain and dominion of mortal beings to solve."
D./ Had it been so, humanly possible, then Jesus Christ would not have been required; and, He would have came here and died for naught if there had been / were / were ever to found to be an human answer to such things as these.
So, no: there is no human answer that suffices our confidence, convictions and trust - certainly not that suffices our eternal salvation and faith! Not for me anyhow: you will not be seeing me place my eternal life, my eternal salvation and hope in presidents, kings, popes, judges, lawyers, governments, principalities, conventions nor ways and means of human kind: especially not within any prowess even of my own self.
IF GOD HIMSELF DOES NOT TRUST US,
Job 4:18
Behold, he put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly:
Job 15:15
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
why should I or anyone else ?
If I were able to rid myself of sin, plight, demise, and the blights of demise, lust, corruption, and death: trust me I'd be a happy man ! But, sadly, I'm not a happy man - just a contented one.
E./ So, the sad part is nothing but a cold hard fact !
1./ It's never been up to us, me myself nor I; nor, you yourselves; it's not up to anyone of us to champion principalities, forces and powers that ARE NOT NATURAL NOR OF THIS NATURAL REALM; and that instead are SUPERNATURAL and of PRIMORDIAL REALMS far beyond human scope, ways and means.
What a quit different place this Earth would be had it been placed within our dominion to be and to do so !!!
Only, sadly, it was not. And so,
2./ We spin on tittering all but out - of - control here at the brink of the end of it all ( as we know it ) still struggling with it all all but helplessly !!
F./ For, it is written -
Deuteronomy 29:29;
The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.
Acts 1:7;
And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Jeremiah 10:23;
O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Proverbs 20:9;
Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?
Matthew 6:27;
Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
John 15:5;
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Psalm 127:1;
Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
Psalm 11:3;
If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
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Paul saith -
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Romans 7:18;
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:15 - 24;
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
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Elihu saith to Job -
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Job 35:6-15;
6 If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
7 If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?
8 Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.
9 By reason of the multitude of oppressions they make the oppressed to cry: they cry out by reason of the arm of the mighty.
10 But none saith, Where is God my maker, who giveth songs in the night;
11 Who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven?
12 There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men.
13 Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.
14 Although thou sayest thou shalt not see him, yet judgment is before him; therefore trust thou in him.
15 But now, because it is not so, he hath visited in his anger; yet he knoweth it not in great extremity:
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David saith -
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Psalm 103:10;
He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.
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Nathan saith to David -
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2 Samuel 12:13;
And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned
against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David,
The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt
not die.
Romans 4:8;
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
STILL YET,
Psalm 39:6;
Surely every man walketh in a vain shew: surely they are disquieted in vain: he heapeth up riches, and knoweth not who shall gather them.
Psalm 39:5;
Behold, thou hast made my days as an handbreadth; and mine age is as nothing before thee: verily every man at his best state is altogether vanity. Selah.
Psalm 60:11;
Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man.
AGAIN,
Psalm 108:12;
Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man.
Job 9:24;
The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Ecclesiastes 4:1;
So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.
Ecclesiastes 7:13;
Consider the work of God: for who can make that straight, which he hath made crooked?
2 Corinthians 4:7;
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Romans 9:16;
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
Hebrews 7:25;
Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
1 Timothy 2:5;
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 John 2:1;
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Hoping to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ !
1 Peter 1:13;
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
3 John 1:11;
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
